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	<title>Comments on: 87. Making the Gospel Understandable</title>
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		<title>By: Mildred Salmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mildred Salmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Mark.  I appreciate your articles.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Naylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Walter,

Thanks very much for your comment.  I appreciate your concern that we do not dismiss or ignore metaphors that can give deeper insight into and appreciation for the cross.  Joel Green speaks of a “kaleidoscope” of metaphors that together provide a more complete understanding.  I also like the idea of different “facets” providing us unique views of the meaning of Jesus’ death.  To simply dismiss one metaphor, especially one that has impacted many other believers, may mean that we miss an insight that would strengthen our faith.

That said, we also need to recognize that a metaphor is not the reality, but a means to comprehend the reality.  If one metaphor, due to the a priori assumptions of the listener, raises questions or objections that distract from the purpose of the metaphor (which is to connect the listener to the reality), then a different metaphor is required.  The variety of worldview and cultural grids that exist in the world make it imperative for cross-cultural workers to identify those metaphors that resonate with their listeners so that they can appreciate the reality.  An insistence to stick with a metaphor that causes misunderstandings (as with the legal metaphor I used which communicated a message that God was less than merciful), will quickly lead to a rejection of the message.

This is not to deny that the legal metaphor does have resonance in some contexts, nor that even in a Sindhi context it will not add to a believer’s appreciation of the cross and, down the road, would be worthy of consideration.  However, the variety of biblical metaphors does lend support to the contextual approach of discovering a metaphor of the cross which communicates the message in a way that makes sense to the listeners.  I would not want to “pit the merits” of the metaphors against each other in an absolute sense, but I am advocating a critical and discriminating use of metaphors in a contextual sense.

Again, thanks for reading and responding.

Blessings,
Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Walter,</p>
<p>Thanks very much for your comment.  I appreciate your concern that we do not dismiss or ignore metaphors that can give deeper insight into and appreciation for the cross.  Joel Green speaks of a “kaleidoscope” of metaphors that together provide a more complete understanding.  I also like the idea of different “facets” providing us unique views of the meaning of Jesus’ death.  To simply dismiss one metaphor, especially one that has impacted many other believers, may mean that we miss an insight that would strengthen our faith.</p>
<p>That said, we also need to recognize that a metaphor is not the reality, but a means to comprehend the reality.  If one metaphor, due to the a priori assumptions of the listener, raises questions or objections that distract from the purpose of the metaphor (which is to connect the listener to the reality), then a different metaphor is required.  The variety of worldview and cultural grids that exist in the world make it imperative for cross-cultural workers to identify those metaphors that resonate with their listeners so that they can appreciate the reality.  An insistence to stick with a metaphor that causes misunderstandings (as with the legal metaphor I used which communicated a message that God was less than merciful), will quickly lead to a rejection of the message.</p>
<p>This is not to deny that the legal metaphor does have resonance in some contexts, nor that even in a Sindhi context it will not add to a believer’s appreciation of the cross and, down the road, would be worthy of consideration.  However, the variety of biblical metaphors does lend support to the contextual approach of discovering a metaphor of the cross which communicates the message in a way that makes sense to the listeners.  I would not want to “pit the merits” of the metaphors against each other in an absolute sense, but I am advocating a critical and discriminating use of metaphors in a contextual sense.</p>
<p>Again, thanks for reading and responding.</p>
<p>Blessings,<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Fast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter Fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 20:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, thanks for the very helpful insights into Lk 15 as it might be &quot;heard&quot; by people in a shame-honor culture.  By way of argument: your frustration in explaining the gospel to Muslims using the legal metaphors of the NT was understandable. I like how you were able to discover the connection with or key to the prodigal son story and your muslim conversation partner.  But just as I am now able to better understand some of the details of the prodigal son story through someone else&#039;s (your!) cultural experience, would it not be just as true that a person in a shame-honor culture can also be helped to understand the legal metaphors if, for example, Mark Naylor just explains it to him (at least as one VALID and in fact, biblical metaphor of salvation), relying on the Holy Spirit of course and connecting it other metaphors, that might be MORE READILY understood?  Understand my question?  I appreciate your insights, but am concerned that in the process we start pitting the merits of one metaphor against another.  Thanks again for your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, thanks for the very helpful insights into Lk 15 as it might be &#8220;heard&#8221; by people in a shame-honor culture.  By way of argument: your frustration in explaining the gospel to Muslims using the legal metaphors of the NT was understandable. I like how you were able to discover the connection with or key to the prodigal son story and your muslim conversation partner.  But just as I am now able to better understand some of the details of the prodigal son story through someone else&#8217;s (your!) cultural experience, would it not be just as true that a person in a shame-honor culture can also be helped to understand the legal metaphors if, for example, Mark Naylor just explains it to him (at least as one VALID and in fact, biblical metaphor of salvation), relying on the Holy Spirit of course and connecting it other metaphors, that might be MORE READILY understood?  Understand my question?  I appreciate your insights, but am concerned that in the process we start pitting the merits of one metaphor against another.  Thanks again for your input.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Naylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mike,
Appreciate your comments.  The true older brother concept (as per footnote 7) is developed well by Tim Keller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike,<br />
Appreciate your comments.  The true older brother concept (as per footnote 7) is developed well by Tim Keller.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Mawhorter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Mawhorter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - good article. I appreciate your thoughtful reflections. Getting a better understanding of the Muslim mind is a great help too. Although we have a harder time identifying with the shame-honor mindset, the Prodigal seems to resonate in our society too. I found your thoughts on Jesus being the way the Father can be merciful, and how he was the true older brother helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; good article. I appreciate your thoughtful reflections. Getting a better understanding of the Muslim mind is a great help too. Although we have a harder time identifying with the shame-honor mindset, the Prodigal seems to resonate in our society too. I found your thoughts on Jesus being the way the Father can be merciful, and how he was the true older brother helpful.</p>
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